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Talk to me about me, Edmund!

YOU ARE ONE OF THE COOLEST FRIENDS owait that wasn't all you wanted.

Was there anything specific, or just a general sotu?

Just a general SotU and then possibly more questions based on that. |D

I'm starting to think I should've done that dots chart thing too, because that would be the best way to describe this. And I have to note that it's really hilarious how level Josh and Ven are on the importance scale. For some reason, the two of you register as units and individuals at the same time, so some of this is going to apply to Ven at the same time.

So basically at the highest levels of importance is Narnia and his siblings/family. Friends are right below that, then acquaintances, and so on. Lovers would normally overlap Friends and Family, but Edmund hasn't bashed those particular hormonal/romantic buttons yet other than his minor crush on Maleficent which he knows is totally based on looks right now so they're kind of a foggy aside right now. Josh and Ven are pretty damn close to family without actually hitting it, but they don't occupy the same space. Edmund would trust them both with his back in battle and in other matters, but whereas he trusts Ven because they're friends and that's the kind of person Ven is, he trusts Josh in a more...

It really is kind of a blurred king to retainer relationship in that Edmund trusts Josh to act in an appropriate way to whatever situation pops up and that he doesn't have to worry or look at whatever Josh is doing to know they're working towards a similar goal. Which is usually Saving Someone(s) which may include themselves depending on context, but the thing still applies. And Edmund is more than willing to be flexible around whatever crazy idea Josh pops out or vice versa. It's a really instinctive trust. If someone had to depend on someone else other than Edmund to voice what Edmund might say/suggest, he'd trust Josh most. :|a

I think the best way I can put it is that even though they don't really talk about themselves in regular conversation, Edmund doesn't feel the need to look at Josh to understand what he's saying. Normally with conversation, there's eye contact and all that, and even with Ven he'll do this because theirs is kind of a more playful friendship? But he doesn't really do that as much with Josh, and it's not a bad thing. It's just like... if they're talking about the forge, they'll both look at the forge and talk about it even if they're gesturing about stuff. That's the sort of feeling I get about it.

Also in a way, Josh and Ven are distinctly Edmund's in a way that Edmund doesn't really designate with most people except with siblings (and even then not consciously), which is why the whole "not exactly family but close to it" feeling. Only with them because they're specifically his friendships and his siblings aren't around, it's more of a personal connection.

If any of the other Pevensies showed up, Edmund would introduce them with no trouble at all, but it's like they were his friends first and before. That doesn't demean any future friendships that might pop up, but it's also a rare distinction because outside of Aather it's usually a Pevensies' thing or someone else's. At least that's how Edmund perceives his memories right now. In his memories, he doesn't have anything in particular that one can say is his specifically and no one else's. Every other Pevensie has that except him. So having two really close friends here with that association is special in its own right.

I think knowing Josh has a sibling of his own increases how much Edmund can relate to him and vice versa, too. That particular kind of relationship makes more sense to someone who's lived something similar, so Edmund takes relief in that he doesn't have to explain it overly much either.

If we touch on the whole physical affection, Edmund's pretty comfortable around Josh with that too, but it's not his instinctive first reaction either. He's actually more comfortable reaching out to Ven right now just because Ven's more obviously open to it.

I guess the summary for this tl;dr would be shield bros without actually outright stating it? Or at least a similar relationship.

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REVERSE 8U

So there are obviously the basics: Josh likes Edmund a lot, considers him a close friend, wants to cheer him up and see him happy, etc, etc; but those are kind of assumed at this point. I would say that he and Mithos are basically the knights he's closest to and among the people he's closest to. But I am mostly going to talk about trust here.

So Josh and trust is...kind of a complicated relationship. He befriends people easily, and trusts them with certain things depending on how they relate to him -- in Aather, that generally ends up being a fairly broad and fairly similar circle of things, but it's not everything. It's not really designed in levels, either; it's more a set of things of more or less importance. (Ferris is a good example of this: he trusts her to fight at his back but not with anything related to, say, romance, or to tell him stuff he needs to know. It's pretty conceivable that there could people he trusts in the reverse way, too, and in other combinations of various things.)

One of the things it's hardest to get Josh to trust you with is leadership. He's hugely unlikely to instinctively follow anyone's lead; he may decide to ally with people, but he'll argue or backtalk when he doesn't agree, or just ignore them and do his own thing. He spent ten millennia doing this in canon. But for Edmund (and Ven, because Ven gets every kind of trust he has, but that's less likely to come up for a number of reasons), Josh trust him to lead him; to give orders in battle, to decide objectives outside of battle that are worth pursuing, and to not abuse either privileges. It is kind of a blurred monarch/retainer relationship, in a few very specific ways; Josh obviously doesn't feel that he's beneath Edmund at all, he absolutely sees them as equals consciously. But if there's a question of command and they're both there, he will back Edmund taking command rather than asserting his own authority, as he's done a few times in Aather, and he'll do that without really thinking about it.

Other than that, a lot of what applies to Edmund applies in reverse, except for some of the Pevensie-specific stuff. They are shield brothers, basically, and Josh has the same feeling that he can come into a situation where Edmund is and things will mostly be done the way he'd have done them, and that they can work together instinctively. But yeah. That leadership trust is something very rare.

Talk to me about Edmund and romance, since that's going around.

AHHHHHHAHAHA

Romance. :'D

Ahhh... Basically Edmund is as prone as anyone to crushes. Crushes are easy, and are liable to come and go without any real notice. And in some ways hero worship can tie into it, but not very much.

Long lasting relationships. :'D Well. That's a whole lot harder. First, Edmund's hormones haven't been triggered, so sex hasn't entered the picture. Second, Edmund thinks someone having a relationship with him would have the sucky end of the stick. He plans to stay and fix Aather all the way, but he fully intends to go home to his siblings once it's all done. (This is mildly mitigated because of the whole Susan thing that's got him kinda freaked just trying to figure out to fix, but I digress.) That's not fair to anyone, that he might not be able to promise them all the time when Aather's fixed.

And sure, you could go on to point out that people can visit each other, but Edmund's not so sure. He gets the feeling that Narnia's not exactly a place you can just drop in whenever you want. On top of that, he's dead. There's a possibility that being dead leaves a barrier where visiting wouldn't be possible. It's not something he's said out loud, but it's something he's aware of too.

This is why you shouldn't let Edmund brood.

But basically Edmund hasn't hit a point where he's willing to risk it, let alone someone who's willing to too? At least in a really obvious way. So he just leaves it alone.

That said, he's curious about the whole romance and dating and stuff. It sounds really nice! And in ways, he's still kind of old fashioned about finding The One, but he's a lot looser about just having fun with people. His interest in something casual hasn't hit a point with anyone where he's just going to go for it either, though.

In general, romantic stuff has a relatively low importance for him right now. He finds family and friends and responsibilities much more important. This is liable to change at any time, but. \o/ As it is, he's just happy to be close to the people he's close to.

AU where Josh isn't dating Ven, what happens?

...I. Wow. This question is hard because his relationship with Ven has actually been pretty important in shaping who he is at this point so without it, uh...

...man I don't even know. I really strongly suspect he's single in this AU. It's not like he crushes on a lot of people anyway, consciously or not (and he tends to repress even in canon), and it basically took Ven touching him a lot and then outright saying "I have a crush" to make him realize it was mutual. His other close CR doesn't really ping him that way much, honestly. Other than that it's really hard to say; there'd be some pretty deep changes, the most obvious being he'd still be pretty teenager-y about touching people instead of doing it a lot the way he does now. I think he'd be less...generally confident, more guarded and closed off, more suspicious sometimes. This is hard. ):

What happens if Susan falls out of the Ring?

SCREAM

His reaction would probably be as follows:
1. STOP
2. STARE
3. CONFIRM IT REALLY IS HER
4. HUG AND REFUSE TO LET GO FOR THE LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME
5. ALL THE FEELINGS

And then whoever apped Susan would have completely broken Edmund. There'd be the whole logistics of where is Susan going, what does she remember, what can he do, ahhh why is one of my siblings here too, etc etc. Also, if Susan doesn't remember Edmund died? He's going to be the most :/ :\ about telling her about that. Because it's one thing if not all of them had died, it's another LEAVING HER BEHIND. Also potentially :( if Susan completely disbelieves Narnia, though not so much because she doesn't remember it yet. But that's its own conversation.

Tell me an anecdote/story from college AU Josh.

Josh ended up taking advanced physics freshman year out of interest, and one day his professor started the unit on fluid dynamics and basic atmospheric physics, like you do. Because he was a pretty cool professor, he showed the class videos of people hang gliding. Josh, naturally, thought this was the coolest thing ever and decided to make one.

He got Ven into it right off, because dude, hang glider. He looked up gliders on the Internet and dragged Mau into figuring out how they worked. They spent the next three weeks making sad eyes at the machine shop, scavenging the theater and history departments, and building a bastardization of a glider out of, basically, stuff they found lying around. They finished just before midterms, and decided that they'd test it to celebrate.

So that Saturday night, Josh and Ven picked the lock on the university clock tower and the two of them dragged their makeshift glider up, somehow without security noticing. Mau was on the ground with a flashlight and the promise of the next ride if it worked, marking a landing zone for them. They strapped themselves in, said goodbye to sanity and launched themselves -- and it worked, for about five minutes. Then the glider started to fall, because they hadn't quite gotten the calculations right to rig it for two. Somehow, they managed to level it out and make an emergency crashlanding right near their landing zone, and come out of it with scrapes and bruises and an amazing story to tell; the glider was a total loss, sadly, but the story of the second time they rebuilt it is for another time.

Give me one for Edmund!

Edmund's first semester at university without any family around was a pretty lonely one for him. He had plenty of acquaintances after awhile and he had plenty of things to study, but it wasn't quite a home away from home yet.

But he happened to have his desk set to face out window. About a week into the semester, a stray cat started showing up outside said window. Dirty, old, and kind of ragged looking cat. Not exactly the most tame looking cat, and no idea why it showed up. The first time, it was kind of a nice unexpected distraction, though the cat went away fairly quickly. The next night it showed up, clearly this wasn't just a coincidence, so Edmund asked about it to no avail. So what do? \o/

Third night, Edmund happened to have his dinner on hand, so he shared it. Odd ritual of cat drops in and Edmund feeds it proceeds for awhile. Two weeks before winter break, the cat stops showing up.

He still left food out for it for awhile, but it never came back. He kept an eye out on any news from animal control, but nothing ever came up. He hasn't heard anything from it since.

Do Josh and Ven have any promises/agreements for what happens if they're stuck in a kill game?

They pretty much have an agreement that game stuff doesn't count. Obviously they're both going to try not to hurt each other's teams if at all possible (and given how TE and Peridot are tied, it often is), but if that's not possible, they'll both deal and hug it out afterward.

What classes does AU!Edmund take?

ALL THE CLASSES!! No, I lie. Most of his classes are related to reading/writing, philosophy, communications, etc. Just things to get him prepped for law school. Picking out fun classes isn't so much an option for him beyond fulfilling a full time class schedule since scholarship and money issues, so he tries to keep it as practical as he can.

Basically Josh and Ven walk into Edmund's room, see the pile of books and their titles, and probably get headaches just looking at them.

What's AU!Josh's major?

I thiiiink he's a double history/physics or chemistry major who takes computer science classes for fun. He probably doesn't sleep a whole lot and gets really, really caffeinated during midterm and final season until Ven sits on him and calms him down.

Does AU!Ed play a sport?

Let's indulge in all the Starbucks, Josh!!

He doesn't officially play on any of the university sports teams, no. He plays for fun and genuinely enjoys the whole sport of it, but he's notorious at being distracted by studies instead. And since chess counts as a sport (IT TOTALLY DOES >O) once you get him started on a chess match and you're competitive, it's like a never ending stream of matches because if he's beaten, he wants to play again to try and find a way around it. Edmund's a sore loser in that if he loses HE WANTS A REMATCH. :'D

How would Josh feel if he ended up in Narnia? Any era you feel like dumping him is fine. :U

Any updates for Jade and Itachi?

Not in particular, other than Mage probably drops in to help cook more often now. 8|a He's pretty comfortable around Itachi and hasn't had any particular inclination to change it or say anything to imply otherwise. Though I should thread with you more in general and see if that changes.

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